Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

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Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#1 Post by bill » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:48 am

The double-lined numeral paper originally used for the Chalons
was supplied with scrolls at the edge to help the printer select
the right paper for printing stamps. The colour of the scroll
was intended to match the colour of the stamp.

This is all in Basset Hull. Tinsley's book also mentions a few
examples of these scrolls for 1d, 2d, 4d, 6d but not the 1/-.
Has the 1/- Chalon ever been recorded with attached scroll?
It would be nice to see other Chalons with scroll. McNamee
has recorded the 2/6 Dragon with scroll.

Incidentally, some supplies of the '1' and '4' paper were sent to
Victoria to alleviate a shortage of paper over there. Kellow's
book on Victoria mentions this scroll in connection with the
Laureates and says that they are rare and make a colourful
contrast since the scroll colour did not match the colour of
the stamp but did not list any examples. (This was due to
stamps being deliberately printed on paper intended for a
different denomination, e.g. 3d Laureate on double-lined '1'
paper.)

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#2 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:21 am

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This 2/6d St George & Dragon was sold by Tasmanian Stamp Auctions in 2006 (July 8th auction - Lot 545)
for AU$625. I discovered it in a "junior collection" which had nothing else included worth more than 10c!!

I believe that the example recorded by David McNamee is mint and privately perforated ... does
an image exist that can be posted here?

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#3 Post by Revenuer » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:43 am

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FK collection
Please visit my oz revenues web site: http://www.ozrevenues.com and don't forget "Illegitimi non carborundum"

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#4 Post by bill » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:20 pm

What perf is this, please?

It looks like an 11.8 but I cannot be sure.

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#5 Post by Revenuer » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:02 pm

Spot on Bill!
Please visit my oz revenues web site: http://www.ozrevenues.com and don't forget "Illegitimi non carborundum"

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#6 Post by bill » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:18 pm

Thanks, Dave. I'm glad to know I guessed right.
It is a good idea to state the perforations. You
can use the Instanta measurement (best) or the
customs adopted by Craig & Ingles.

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#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:15 pm

bill wrote:... the customs adopted by Craig & Ingles.
What are these customs in case Dave loses his perforation gauge? :)

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#8 Post by bill » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:37 pm

Just have a read of C&I perforation notes in their catalogue.
They have certain conventions as he'll see!

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#9 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:11 am

Another example of the 2/6d St George & Dragon with scrolling on the selvedge has been sold on eBay (Jan 16th 2016)
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It sold cheaply (in my opinion) for AU$222.50 so I'm sure that the purchaser was very pleased!

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Re: Scrolls on double-lined numerals paper

#10 Post by bill » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:05 am

So far we know of at least three examples of the 2/6 St George & Dragon
with scroll. These occur with both the 1863 and 1880 printings. (Two of
1880 printing and one of 1863 printings.) Do any other examples exist?

As stated previously in this thread, scrolls are known for 1d, 2d, 4d and
6d Chalons, all in slightly different patterns. Has anyone ever seen the
1/- Chalon with scroll attached?

We note that the 2/6 St George and Dragon with REVENUE overprint is
also found with double-lined 4 watermark from an emergency printing
in late 1903. In principle, a scroll would have existed for that stamp
as also for the 3d, 5/- (both colours) and 10/- Dragons (both colours)
but have not been seen. Of course, survival rates are rather low due
to trimming of scrolls and limited usage in practice.

The blue scroll for 4d Chalon is known for the 4d Laureate of Victoria
because a large supply was sent to Victoria, which was running low on
paper. (References are buried deep inside Geoff Kellow's bibliography
for Victoria. Apparently, no other examples for Victoria recorded.)

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