Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

Message
Author
admin
Site Admin
Posts: 471
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#1 Post by admin » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:37 pm

The RRR and RRRR cds on Pictorials census - phase 2 - on line
In The Courier No 11, March 1990, Tony Orchard commenced a census of the scarcer Circular Date Stamps on Tasmanian Pictorials. The census extended over a number of years and all then known types were recorded. The listing of scarcer strikes was thought to be reasonably complete. Alas the Census was not continued beyond the 1990s.
The TPS web site presents an opportunity to revive this census and make the results easily available to TPS members on-line. How many strikes might exist of the rarest CDS ? How does the quality vary from post office to post office ? What prices are being realised at auction ? These are some of the more obvious questions that a revival of the census might help to answer.
The original Courier census images will be progressively up-loaded onto a Members section of the TPS web site starting in July 2009. As many new examples as can be found from collections and auction catalogues will be added to the existing black and white images originally published.
Can you help ? If you have any of the 3R and 4R cds on Pictorials you assistance in adding these to the web site would be welcomed. Just contact Peter Allan via this Bulletin Board - use the private message facility(the little 'PM' icon on the top right of this message) or add a post to this Topic.
Ideally I'd like good quality scans sized to 200 pixels in width, but if you don't know how/haven't got time to do this, just let me know and I'll be happy to assist.Complete privacy is assured. If you have any comments, suggestions or questions please don't hesitate to get in touch.
Peter Allan
Image

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#2 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:23 pm

Image

TEEPOOKANA / FE 5 02 / TASMANIA - rated RRRR

You can load up images of RRR or RRRR rated postmarks for the census on this thread - the Administrator or myself can then transfer the images to the TPS website.

Revenuer
Posts: 388
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:20 am
Location: Queensland
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#3 Post by Revenuer » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:51 am

Peter
Can you post the 1990 article for all to read? as i only have Lancaster's 1986 work.
Dave
Please visit my oz revenues web site: http://www.ozrevenues.com and don't forget "Illegitimi non carborundum"

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 471
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#4 Post by admin » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:20 am

Dave,
The article in Courier Number 11 of 1990 doesnt say very much except to introduce the concept of an on-going listing, with images, of as many 3R and 4R strikes as could be found. The article then shows stikes in alphabetical order from Allonah to Ellerslie. For the next few years The Courier then continued the listings. As the on-line Census will include all of the original strtikes(scans of the origianl black and white pictures )plus as many new ones as we can find its prtobably not a lot of help to re-publish the Courier article in its original form. The introduction doesnt shed much light on the higher rated strikes, its the images that are the useful part.If youd like a copy I'd be happy to send you a PDF though - just send me an email via the Bulletin Board .
I think that images for the first 15 Post Offices will be up on the TPS Memebers section of the web site within a fortnight. I'll send you a password and log-on ID as soon as its up.
One thing to note is that the original census included anything listed as 3R or 4R in either of the two 'Green Books' or in Lancaster. We've taken the view that the Lancaster ratings are the most recent and only listed 3R and 4R as per Lancasters list.

Peter

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#5 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:55 pm

Image

CHRISTMAS HILL / 3-JAN.07 / TASMANIA (Type 2) - rated RRR
Seen on eBay as part of larger collection c.2005 - purchaser unknown.
[sorry about the size of the image but this was taken from the eBay website when listed]

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#6 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:03 pm

Image

GLAZIERS BAY / 40-SEP.08 / TASMANIA - Type 2 is rated RRRR


This example was seen as part of an accumulation of postmarks offered on eBay c.2005
I believe the purchase price was in the $2500-$3000 and it is now "resident" in one of the
major collections. [image quality poor as this was taken from the eBay site at the time]
This was a "new discovery". P.S. the year may be '06' rather than '08' .... perhaps the
owner may be able to confirm?

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:08 pm

Image

SPRINGS / 11 DE 1912 / TASMANIA - rated RRRR

One of the few examples with a 1912 date. It is not known whether this strike has ever
been offered for sale and may be a "new discovery".

John Shepherd

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#8 Post by John Shepherd » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:51 pm

Re the Glaziers Bay there was a short note in The Courier at the time concerning the discovery and realization.

Geoff Dane
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:40 pm
Location: Bungendore, NSW

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#9 Post by Geoff Dane » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:38 pm

Attached are scans of 2 rated postmarks from my collection to add to the census counts.
Image
Image

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 471
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#10 Post by admin » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:34 pm

Geoff, Many thanks. I'll add them to the census.

Peter Allan

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#11 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:55 pm

LEGANA / -9.DE.11 / TAS[MA]NIA - rated RRR
Image
To be auctioned by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#12 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:00 pm

NEW RIVE[R] / 21.JAN.07 / TASMANIA - rated RRRR
N.B. part of letters VER have been enhanced (poorly) in black ink.
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#13 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:55 am

GLEN FERN / OC 6 03 / TASMANIA - rated RRR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#14 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:04 pm

WILMOT LOWER / JU 26 12 / TASMANIA - rated (R)RR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#15 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:06 pm

WILMOT LOWER / JY 31 02 / TASMANIA - rated (R)RR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#16 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:51 pm

CLAREMONT / 10 - A 16DE12 / TASMANIA - Type 3 provisionally rated RRR
Image
This postmark will be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#17 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:07 pm

MURDUNNA / 15.JUL.12 / TASMANIA - rated (R)RRR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#18 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:05 pm

HILL END / DE 3 00 / TASMANIA - rated RRR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#19 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:08 pm

HILL END / MY 30 00 / TASMANIA - rated RRR
Image
To be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#20 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:29 pm

GLAZIER'S BAY / AP 27 03 / TASMANIA - Type 1b is rated RRR
Image
This postmark will be offered for sale by TSA in November 2009.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#21 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:14 pm

GLAZIER'S BAY / SE 12 02 / TASMANIA - Type 1b is rated RRR
Image
This example sold on eBay on 12-AUG-2009 for AU$117.50

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#22 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:56 pm

LEGANA / 13 SE.11 / TASMANIA - rated RRR
Image
Offered on eBay - August 2009

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#23 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:27 pm

LOIRA / 4.NO.12 - 10.15.AM / TASMANIA - rated RRR

Image
To be offered for sale in the TSA November 2009 Postal Auction

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#24 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:08 pm

OSTERLY SOUTH / AU 7 01 / TASMANIA - rated RRRR

Image

This postmark was offered on eBay during late August 2009. I will add the
price realised here when known.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: Census of RRR and RRRR circular date stamps on Tas Pictorial

#25 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:37 pm

VERONA / 31.SEP.06 / TA[SMANIA] - Type 2 is rated RRR

and yes, the date definitely reads September 31st ... they must have really
enjoyed that month at Verona in 1906!

Image

Sold for AU$60 on the TSA Online Store ..... sorry that you missed out
at that bargain price but it had been there for many months! :(

Post Reply