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Varieties on 1d Pictorials

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:17 pm
by songenaz
Hello everybody
I found this stamp on french web site
It looks that there's somme white vertical line at the bottom
Is it a well known default? or some mistake just one time?
vertical white line below M, O and second N
vertical white line below M, O and second N
Pictorial wellington varieties 3.jpg (182.42 KiB) Viewed 2221 times
Thanks for your help
laurent

Re: Pictorial varieties

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:03 pm
by Ross Ewington
Hi Laurent

can you please provide perforation (11 or 12.4) and watermark details (V over Crown or Crown over A) please? ...also an enlargement of the bottom of the stamp (at least 600dpi)
where the variety is visible is necessary to make a judgment.

Re: Pictorial varieties

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:02 pm
by songenaz
Hi Ross
Sorry to reply late.
I think the perforation is 11( but not exactly) and the Watermark is crown over A
Here is an attachment of varietie( 600 dpi)
I can provide some higher resolution if necessary.
vertical white line below M, O and second N
vertical white line below M, O and second N
Pictorial 1d detail.jpg (120.26 KiB) Viewed 2204 times
Thanks for your help.
laurent

Re: Pictorial varieties

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:13 pm
by Ross Ewington
thanks Laurent

the variety looks like surface scuffs to me ......can we try a 1200dpi image of the bottom of the stamp?

Re: Varieties on 1d Pictorials

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:05 pm
by admin
I am not particularly confident about identifying flaws on the Pictorials but from what I am able to find in the literature:
  • this must be from the Electrotypes ( Melbourne) printings given the perf and watermark.
    the Australian Commonwealth Specialist Catalogue does not list anything remotely like these mark. However, the Author of the ACSC did not list very many flaws at all on the Pictorial issues.
    the only other detailed work, Keith Lancaster's "The Pictorial Stamps of Tasmania" ( 1986) however list a very large number of Pictorial flaws, and the author has plated many of these. The majority are tiny white specs and scratches .
In checking Lancaster's list for the 1d Electrotypes again I cannot see anything which resembles the marks shown in Laurent's example. However, nearly all Lancaster's flaws are described in text, there are no images and I may have mis-interpreted his descriptions. He lists 59 positioned flaws and 14 un-positioned flaws for the 1d Red electrotype printings.
I have seen numerous abrasion marks on these stamps which can superficially look like plate flaws but under strong magnification you can see the paper has been damaged, hence I suspect Ross is correct - the marks are probably scuff marks.

Ps - we hope within 12 to 18 months to publish up-to-date information about the Melbourne printings of these stamps as the printing records have been located . It will be interesting to see how the authors will treat the issue of the permanent plate varieties - its a huge job .
Pete

Re: Varieties on 1d Pictorials

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:17 pm
by songenaz
HI Ross and Pete
Thanks for helping.
What is surface scuffs?
Here is 1200 dpi image
On the other side stamps looks clean without any fault or damage
On the other side stamps looks clean without any fault or damage
Pictorial 1 d . 1200 dpi.jpg (380.17 KiB) Viewed 2193 times
I hope these details provide good information.
Many thanks again
laurent

Re: Varieties on 1d Pictorials

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:25 pm
by Ross Ewington
thanks Laurent

'surface scuffs' are scratches on the surface of the stamp produced after a stamp has been printed, usually as a result of rough handling
while on cover packet or parcel.

your 1200dpi scan reveals that the marks on your stamp are surface scuffs rather than a printing variety ... you can see that the surface
of the stamp has been scratched damaging the paper.