UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

Message
Author
Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#1 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:41 pm

HAMILTON Type 4a DATESTAMP WITH INVERTED DATEWHEEL

This Hamilton cds impression from 22JY48 shows an inverted "8" in the dateline. Considering this is a common postmark, I have never noticed this variation before and it isn't recorded by Avery & Hardinge.
[attachment=0]hamilton cds invert.jpg[/attachment]

If you have a similar example, can you please post it here?? ..... it would be good to create a record of the period of the datestamp's use with this dateline variety.
Attachments
hamilton cds invert.jpg
hamilton cds invert.jpg (38.61 KiB) Viewed 32141 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#2 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:38 pm

DERWENT BRIDGE Type 5(s)(ii) CDS WITH INCORRECT YEAR IN DATE

Year given is 1989 - should have been 1979 (the post office closed in 1980)
db dateline.jpg
db dateline.jpg (8.27 KiB) Viewed 32137 times
tas621.jpg
tas621.jpg (35.62 KiB) Viewed 32137 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#3 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:27 pm

koomeela dateline.jpg
koomeela dateline.jpg (93.04 KiB) Viewed 32124 times
KOOMEELA Type 4 with second number in 'year' inverted ..... not reported by A&H.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#4 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:18 pm

ST HELENS Type 2b struck in blue ink - dated 20MY17.
[attachment=0]st helens in blue 1917.jpg[/attachment]

Previously only reported in this colour with 1914 dates
Attachments
st helens in blue 1917.jpg
st helens in blue 1917.jpg (51.73 KiB) Viewed 32111 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#5 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:56 am

LEWIS HILL · 23JL54 · TAS - Type 4
[attachment=0]z2145.jpg[/attachment]
First and last datewheel inverted - A&H records only the first decade wheel as
having been seen inverted (1952)
Attachments
z2145.jpg
z2145.jpg (69.95 KiB) Viewed 32098 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#6 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:18 pm

SPRINGS · 30NO.1915 · TASMANIA in dark blue ink - rated RRRRR
ry63.jpg
ry63.jpg (46.61 KiB) Viewed 32090 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:36 pm

NABAGEENA Type 2 ....the clarity of the 'struck' part of the dateline suggests that the first roller
for the year was either faulty or absent at the time (I assume the year was 1932)
nabageena dateline variety.jpg
nabageena dateline variety.jpg (53.5 KiB) Viewed 31952 times
Postmark offered in DnJay's first online auction whose image I helped myself to .... so here's a "thank you link"
http://www.dnjaysauctions.com/?content=home

Jeffharris
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:59 pm

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#8 Post by Jeffharris » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:22 pm

The Derwent Bridge cancel above http://tps.org.au/bb/viewtopic.php?f=5& ... 2996#p1592 cannot be from 1979 as the 'Waltzing Matilda' folklore stamps were not issued until 7th. May 1980.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#9 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:02 pm

To quote Capt Mainwaring of "Dad's Army" fame, "I was wondering how long it would take someone to spot that!" :oops:

Well noticed Jeff! We can only assume that there was a technical reason that the '9' was used instead of a '0'. Can anyone report
other examples from 1980? Do last day covers exist, if so is the year '80' or '89'?

Colin Salt

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#10 Post by Colin Salt » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:31 am

Nice to see the quote from Captain Mainwaring.

I have a last day cancel from Derwent Bridge which is illustrated. The 0 is not quite in line. Sadly it is only a cut out.
Derwent Bridge.jpg
Derwent Bridge.jpg (22.73 KiB) Viewed 31938 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#11 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:28 am

Impressions of the neoprene-faced datestamp in used at ROKEBY with the date added in red ink was brought to my attention during 2012 when still 'in use'.

I have just found two examples (in a charity accumulation from commercial mail) both applied on the same day in 2010
rokeby bi-colour cancel.jpg
rokeby bi-colour cancel.jpg (221.67 KiB) Viewed 30858 times
In addition to the unusual dateline, note that the 'star' opposite same appears on one cancel on the left and the other on the right!

As the late John Avery would have said ...."a real puzzler"!

Any ideas?

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#12 Post by MaxH » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:53 pm

Savage River date stamp. This appears to be a Type 6 postmark with no hyphen between TAS and Postcode.
This is not listed in Hardinge who gives two versions of the Type 6 post marker, both of which are Type 6a. The only other possible option is a Type 8 which again is not listed.
Could you please clarify, or correctly identify, Ross.
Savage River Type 6.jpg
Savage River Type 6.jpg (156.53 KiB) Viewed 30832 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#13 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:43 pm

CHIEF PARCEL OFFICE · Aug 31 1918 · HOBART - rubber Oval datestamp '(i)'
yy1004.jpg
yy1004.jpg (233.99 KiB) Viewed 30822 times
Please note that '1918' is inverted - I don't think that this dateline variety has been reported.

Check your holdings in case we can determine and early and a late date. It may be just a "one off"
of course.... used for a few hours/days and then corrected when the error was noted by a PO clerk.

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 479
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#14 Post by admin » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:05 pm

I have 1/12/1915 and ?/jul/1933 both of which are the right way up.
pete

John Hardinge
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:47 pm

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#15 Post by John Hardinge » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:02 pm

MaxH wrote:Savage River date stamp. This appears to be a Type 6 postmark with no hyphen between TAS and Postcode.
This is not listed in Hardinge who gives two versions of the Type 6 post marker, both of which are Type 6a. The only other possible option is a Type 8 which again is not listed.
Could you please clarify, or correctly identify, Ross.
Savage River Type 6.jpg
Yes, this should be listed as TYpe 6, not 6a. Apologies.

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#16 Post by MaxH » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:05 pm

Cygnet 7bT "Paid" CDS. missing numeral in year.
This postmark appears to be consistent as evidenced by the two different dates of use.
They show a missing first numeral of year (presumably an "8")
I must confess that I have not seen another example WITH the missing numeral present so this may be the norm.
Can anyone help?
Cygnet 7bT Paid.jpg
Cygnet 7bT Paid.jpg (329.41 KiB) Viewed 30668 times

torstenweller
Posts: 8
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:25 pm
Location: Melbourne
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#17 Post by torstenweller » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:46 pm

Below is a scan of a strike on a 2 1/2d Imperial Reply Coupon of a rubber STAMP SALES / LAUNCESTON cancel dated 18 / FEB / 1935 which appears to be unlisted. The datestamp is 28mm in diameter with circle (or possible asterisk) arcs and the date in in three lines with a three-letter month and four-digit year.

Image

Any further information about this datestamp would be appreciated including whether it has now been recorded in updated lists and whether others have been seen and if so what dates.

John Hardinge
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:47 pm

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#18 Post by John Hardinge » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:56 pm

Had been seen before with various dates from 1924-1930, but this is later by 5 years and the first copy I have seen in purple ink. Either way it is scarce, no more than 4-5 or so seen.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#19 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:12 pm

The datestamp is Type R2a - rated 'RRRRR'. Previous LRD was 17-SEP-1930.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#20 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:11 am

A new subtype of the CHIEF TELEGRAPH OFFICE HOBART Type 2b(iii) has been discovered.

For details and an image go to http://tps.org.au/bb/viewtopic.php?f=5& ... 5080#p5080

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#21 Post by MaxH » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:25 am

Strahan R6aT(ii).
This may be a totally new variety not described by Hardinge, or may just be misdescribed in the listings.
The postmark is described as having the 5PM time annotation "below" the dateline.
However as the postcode varies from the R6a and R6aT(i) postmarks in the size of the text in that it is much smaller. It is most likely that it is as yet undescribed.
Please advise your thoughts re this.
StrahanR6aT(ii) 5PM above date.jpg
StrahanR6aT(ii) 5PM above date.jpg (249.6 KiB) Viewed 30561 times

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#22 Post by MaxH » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:09 pm

Sandy Bay R6 rubber Paid CDS 14 Dec 1993.
This is listed in Hardinge in Red 1990-91 and black in 1991-
The present example is in Blue ink and records the word "Paid" above the dateline and additionally
the Time (6.00 PM) is recorded below the dateline. Neither this variation nor the colour is recorded.
Has anyone seen this before?
Sandy Bay Paid CDS.jpg
Sandy Bay Paid CDS.jpg (317.07 KiB) Viewed 30499 times

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#23 Post by MaxH » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:36 pm

Somerset R6a colour variations.
This post mark is described in the notes as being in Blue ink in 1989.
I wish to report the existence of two exam,ples also dated 1989, one being in Black ink,
the other in Violet. This may be nitpicking, but as colour variations are extensively
described elsewhere I feel that it is important to report any that I find.
Somerset colours 2.jpg
Somerset colours 2.jpg (855.63 KiB) Viewed 30497 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#24 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:33 pm

ROSEBERY · PAID · 1.45P -1AP92 · TAS-AUST-7470 - note 'time' is in larger letters with 'minutes' on side as per Type 8T cds
qq3823.jpg
qq3823.jpg (132.28 KiB) Viewed 29339 times
Currently, the Type 7b PAID cds is listed as being in use until 1995

This datestamp would be classified as being Type 7b(m)

MaxH
Posts: 70
Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:08 am

Re: UNRECORDED DATESTAMP VARIATIONS - ALL ERAS - POST HERE!

#25 Post by MaxH » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:48 am

Relief Stamp Type 4a in Violet. Any ideas re this? I thought that a numeral had not come through on the strike, but the text "Relief Stamp" is in smaller type than the numbered postmarks. Likewise the positioning of the text does not really allow room for a numeral. The date (I think) is 6 OCT 1959. The 9 looks to be a bit smaller than the 5 so perhaps this could be called 4a(m). Further, I have not seen any other Relief stamps using Violet ink.
Relief stamp unlisted.jpg
Relief stamp unlisted.jpg (87.48 KiB) Viewed 28977 times

Post Reply