POST 1912 DATESTAMP INQUIRIES - ASK QUESTIONS HERE !!

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#51 Post by RogerKinns » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:16 am

Can anyone help with this strike? I thought it would be a common (probably) parcel postmark on an attractive pair of SG 212, and bought it as such, but I can't find it in Part 2 of "Cancellations 1913-88" by Avery and Hardinge.
1946 rect. cancel on pair of SG 212
1946 rect. cancel on pair of SG 212
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#52 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:47 am

It's a town die from part of a machine cancel ...one more 2/- stamp to the right and some of the slogan would have been included. Avery and Hardinge only list handheld datestamps.

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#53 Post by RogerKinns » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:09 pm

Thanks, Ross. Duly noted for the future! Roger

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#54 Post by Colin Salt » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:51 am

An extensive listing of the Tasmanian machine cancellations was publised in The Courier No. 45, June 2008.

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#55 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:36 pm

Has anyone seen this AUSTRALIA POST HOBART TASMANIA 7000 neoprene-faced datestamp used before?
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#56 Post by John Hardinge » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:45 am

New to me

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#57 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:41 am

The Williamsford PO closed on 18 JUNE 1976 and this example of the Type 5(s) cds is on a "last day cover"

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Although the impression is extra clear, the "month" in the dateline is absent except for two tiny black marks that do not appear to be
part of the letters 'J' or 'U'. Does anyone have any examples of this postmark from this period (i.e.May/June 1976) where the "month"
was clearly impressed or is "month missing" the normal state for all late impressions??
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#58 Post by Colin Salt » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:01 am

My only example of this cds is a couple of years earlier but there is weakness in the month area of the date line.

The first letter of the month has not registered and a very feint Y shows as the second.

Could the detereoration have started earlier?
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#59 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:36 am

I have just found this impression of PAID AT HOBART · ----4JA52(?) · TAS struck in red ink.

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As there is no 'stop' after TAS, it appears to be one of the three Type 4R datestamps.
In addition to the problem of working out which of the three PAID datestamps this is, there
are three more to be found 1) none of the Type 4R datestamps have been recorded struck in red
ink, 2) the latest recorded date for any of the three cds is -8 JU 1933 and 3) could this be an example
of the Tpe 4aR where the 'dot' after TAS has not impressed?

Can anyone solve this puzzle for me?

P.S. yes, I realise that it is unlikely that a red cancellation would be found with a 1952 date so I
may be wrong in that assumption (thus the ?), however, the questions remain the same.
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#60 Post by Colin Salt » Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:40 am

Hi Ross,
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Here is another example of the TAS no stop handstamp struck in red.
The date is not entirely clear, best guess is 17 10 (4)9

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#61 Post by MaxH » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:42 pm

Can anyone help with this LINDA datestamp Type 4a dated 8OC53 with an inverted "5"
This is not listed by Hardinge, but may actually be the norm
Any comments please?
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#62 Post by MaxH » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:08 pm

Hardinge states that this postmarker used Violet ink for 1991.
This would appear to be late usage, but have others seen this year with Violet ink?
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#63 Post by MaxH » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:34 pm

ANTILL PONDS RLY STN 30NO37.
This postmark has had the "30" manuscript cancelled, presumably to correct the missing "30" on the datestamp
I was wondering whether this is a constant correction and whether anyone else has seen this variant.
OR has it been hand corrected the once and a new slug put into the canceller.
It is likely that there are other cancels where the missing 30 has not been noted and therefore with a blank day.
Any thoughts ?
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#64 Post by John Hardinge » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:32 pm

Linda with inverted 5 is new to me

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#65 Post by John Hardinge » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:32 pm

MaxH wrote:Hardinge states that this postmarker used Violet ink for 1991.
This would appear to be late usage, but have others seen this year with Violet ink?
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Is alter date than previously seen I think

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#66 Post by John Hardinge » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:33 pm

MaxH wrote:ANTILL PONDS RLY STN 30NO37.
This postmark has had the "30" manuscript cancelled, presumably to correct the missing "30" on the datestamp
I was wondering whether this is a constant correction and whether anyone else has seen this variant.
OR has it been hand corrected the once and a new slug put into the canceller.
It is likely that there are other cancels where the missing 30 has not been noted and therefore with a blank day.
Any thoughts ?
ANTILL PONDS Mss.jpg

These were commonly done as the "type for the office were either lost or damaged.

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#67 Post by MaxH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:12 am

Help !! I have a HOBART / TAS-AUST postmark dated "4-P-5JA90"
but no postcode as I would have expected in 1990.
Perusing Avery and Hardinge the likely identification is either 5sT (dates given as 1961-1979)
or R6b "Tas Aust" at base. but again dates do not fit (1968-1974. It does look like a rubber postmark however.
Any ideas please.
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#68 Post by MaxH » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:16 am

Scan of HOBART 5JA90 postmark, subject of previous message.
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#69 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:57 am

Hi Max

it's definitely a Type 5sT steel datestamp and not a rubber/neoprene-faced datestamp.

I'll leave it up to JH to provide the taxonomy

cheers ... Ross

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#70 Post by MaxH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:54 pm

Query early or late usage of PROSPECT 23 AUG 1991, or a new variety.
I appreciate that all four listed examples are of variations on the R6 post marker, however
these are in two pairs a) "P of Prospect almost touching frame" and b) Prospect aligned with frame.
My example has the "T" of Prospect almost touching the frame. Also my date is midway between the two pairs
hence either early or late. Any thoughts please?
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#71 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:24 am

RELIEF No.3 · TAS-AUST used at MAYDENA - early date 29JY57 · late date on envelope (with address in identical handwriting) 18OC57

Cover with earlier postmark endorsed "Maydena (P.O. Burnt recently)"
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I also found about another five similar envelopes with postmarks dating from the interim period.

There is a 'problem' here that warrants investigation.
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While the late date for the Type 5 cds is fine, the current ERD for the Type 5s as 31MY57 is possibly an error as I believe that the
post office was razed during late June/early July 1957 (unfortunately, copies of The Mercury from this period cannot be viewed online using Trove)
and the Type 5 cds destroyed at that time.

Can anyone provide an early date of use for the Type 5s datestamp prior to October 18th, 1957?

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#72 Post by MaxH » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:03 pm

Devonport "Money Order Counter" Type R7
Hardinge lists this item under "Money Orders" and states that the text reads "Money Order Teller/Devonport Tas 7310
Do I have an unlisted postmark or is the text on the postmark misstated?
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#73 Post by John Hardinge » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:57 pm

Sorry, the text of the postmark is misstated.

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#74 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:41 pm

More of an announcement rather than an inquiry! :)

MENGHA · 30JE75 · TAS-AUST - Type 5(s) on a "Last Day Cover"
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John's master list indicates that closing day (and LRD) was 17 MAR 1975 whereas "The Post Offices of Tasmania" (1996)
indicates a 30 JUN 1975 closure, confirmed by this cover.

Please adjust your lists.

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#75 Post by MaxH » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:13 pm

I am trying to identify the following two postmarks from Hobart.
As far as I can make out they are Type 7aT, but there the problem begins as they are both "SD" which according to Hardinge's dates make this a very late usage. (LD 7 June 1982). The 7aT(ii) dates from 25 Feb 1986 - IU 1994, but the notes state that the "SD" has been removed.
I cannot see what else they could be. Note that the second example has the "S" reversed.
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