BN 66 ? identification question

Post Reply
Message
Author
admin
Site Admin
Posts: 479
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

BN 66 ? identification question

#1 Post by admin » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:53 pm

I believe this is BN 66 of Oyster Cove. However, I am not quite sure. I dont believe its 99 but I may be wrong.
Give the stamp is a keyplate it should be the second issue of this BN. The small size of the font supports this
I would appreciate any confirmation or otherwise especially as if I am correct this is a 5R BN.
BN-66-Second-issue.jpg
BN-66-Second-issue.jpg (263.94 KiB) Viewed 3694 times

Jerry Weirich
Posts: 388
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:35 pm
Location: Virginia, USA

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#2 Post by Jerry Weirich » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:46 am

I think you have a partial strike of 299. I think the font size should be larger for a 66. Other thoughts?

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 479
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#3 Post by admin » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:25 pm

Thanks Jerry. You may be right but I am not quite sure. I will see if I can find a BN 299 for comparison. Hardinge in Courier #51 states there were two issues of BN66 ( and a third with it inverted to make 99) and the second was in a smaller font than the first.
There is a slight possibility its BN 99 of Taylors Bay if its not BN 299 .
In Hardinge's BN listings he says the first BN 66 was lost and replaced with a second from 1970-1973. I see from the Post Office openings and closings lists that Oyster cover was open 1857 - 1973, 1892 - 1897 and 1897 to 1924.
On refection and with a bit of further research i dont think it can be Oyster Cove as it seems the BN was lost or destroyed and the PO burnt down in 1873.
Hardinge's annual allocation/re-llocation table in Courier #49 says BN 66 was re-issued in 1883 as a new type and allocated as 99 to Taylors Bay so there is a sight chance thats what it it. The keyplate stamp was first issued in 1892 I think and Taylors Bay was open at that time.
Any further comments welcolmed.

John Hardinge
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:47 pm

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#4 Post by John Hardinge » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:44 pm

Sad to say it's a part strike of 299. There are two types of 66, both used at Oyster Cove, one used 1861-69(approx), the other used 1869-73.

As for 99, this is a very ratre number used 1861-83 or so at Taylors Bay before being replaced by the first alloction 66 issued again as 99. It's use ceased in 1893.

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#5 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:38 pm

BN299.jpg
BN299.jpg (162.64 KiB) Viewed 3681 times
sorry Pete, there's no oysters at Waratah. ;)

Geoff Dane
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:40 pm
Location: Bungendore, NSW

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#6 Post by Geoff Dane » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:41 pm

Could one or more of the BN experts tell whether this is a 66 or a 99 and which office it was used at please?
BN66.jpg
BN66.jpg (87.39 KiB) Viewed 3342 times

Ross Ewington
Posts: 2079
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:00 pm
Location: Hobart
Contact:

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:21 pm

It's the second allocation BN66 as used at Oyster Cover. If it were '99' on this stamp, it would have to be the first allocation '66'
(that was used inverted as '99' at Taylor's Bay/Little Taylor's Bay 1883/93) and I am fairly certain that this isn't 'it'.

admin
Site Admin
Posts: 479
Joined: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:54 pm
Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Re: BN 66 ? identification question

#8 Post by admin » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:47 pm

BN 99 was issued first in 1861 according to John Hardinge's research, but lost and re-issued in 1883 using the first allocation numeral 66 of Port Cygnet.
I have a copy of the latter which is shown below, both as 66, and inverted as 99.
I have an image of the original BN 99 somewhere but cannot locate it at present.
Your example looks very similar to my BN 66 of Oyster cove.
BN 66, issued as one of the very fist batch of 186, was replace in December 1870 with a second version. I am guessing that between the two the ms cancels occasionally seen were produced. I do not at present have an example but clearly there were two versions of 66 and they would have looked slightly different. The first version is rated 4R and the second 5R so both are very hard to find.. The stamp upon which the numeral is seen will give a good indication of which version it is.


Here is First Allocation 66
BN-66-first-all.jpg
BN-66-first-all.jpg (42.73 KiB) Viewed 3323 times
And here is the same cancellation inverted to show how it must have looked as second allocation 99.

I hope this helps with identification of the second issue of BN 99
BN-99--secondl.jpg
BN-99--secondl.jpg (42.77 KiB) Viewed 3323 times

Post Reply