EARLY MANUSCRIPT CANCELLATIONS - POST IMAGES/ANY QUESTIONS??

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#1 Post by RogerKinns » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 am

Torquay manuscript cancellations occur on Courier and early Chalon issues. Here are four examples from recent auctions:
Tasmanian Stamp Auctions, Lot 308, 14th November 2009
Tasmanian Stamp Auctions, Lot 308, 14th November 2009
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Ebay, 6th March 2010
Ebay, 6th March 2010
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Prestige Philately Auction 153, Lot 316, 12th February 2010
Prestige Philately Auction 153, Lot 316, 12th February 2010
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Tasmanian Stamp Auctions, Lot 309, 14th November 2009
Tasmanian Stamp Auctions, Lot 309, 14th November 2009
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The manuscript cancellations on the two Couriers show a distinctive curly 'T', but those on the Chalons appear to be in two different hands.The manuscript cancellation on the 4d Chalons looks to be in the same hand as an example on cover, whose photograph is shown opposite Page 108 in the Green Book, Part I.

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#2 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:43 pm

I have come across this rather attractive example of a mss cancellation
from Torquay dated 15/10/58 on a strip of 2d yellow-green Chalons.

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Has anyone got images of mss cancels from Torquay that they would like to share
with us on this topic?
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#3 Post by Jerry Weirich » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:17 am

Here are several of my favorite Torquay manuscripts from my collection:
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#4 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:11 pm

NEWTOWN (i.e. NEW TOWN) 9/6-54 - nearly
complete tying a two margin 4d Courier to small piece.
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I have seen the town name on a Chalon before (and a couple of mss "46" too)
but this is a first on a Courier. Does anyone recall having seen an example before?

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#5 Post by David McNamee » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:02 pm

I think this is the earliest Torquay: 14 NOV 1854.
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#6 Post by RogerKinns » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:53 am

Those are fine examples of Torquay manuscript cancellations. I previously posted four other examples in MANUSCRIPT CANCELLATIONS - POST YOUR IMAGES HERE, two on Couriers and two on Chalons. They add up to a group with writing in different hands, so it would be worth putting them in the same place on the website for easy comparison. I'll leave that to the webmaster! The cancellations on the three Couriers appear to be in the same hand, but those on the Chalons are different.

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#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:24 am

Good idea Roger ... I have moved your post and it now appears at the top of this topic.

Link:http://tps.org.au/bb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=298#p1115

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#8 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:30 pm

This mss '46' of New Town was offered by Status International*
(Sydney) in their August 26th, 2010 auction (Lot 1949)

[attachment=0]new town mss.jpg[/attachment]

* I haven't included a link to the catalog listing as I don't think SI archive their past sales online.
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#9 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:33 pm

Has anyone seen a "Kingston" manuscript before? Reported used "Brown's River" in Part One
of the "Green Books" but this is the first example I've seen.

[attachment=0]kingston mss.jpg[/attachment]
The stamps have numeral "2" watermark (inverted).
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#10 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:25 pm

Thanks to TPS BB member David McNamee for directing me to this example
of another manuscript cancel from KIngston.

[attachment=1]kingston mss 2.jpg[/attachment]
This example was sold by Leski Auctions in their June 16th 2008 sale (Lot 866)
It realised AU$5500 against an estimate of $1500 but it was probably the large
multiple that attracted the dollars with the cancel being a nice "frill".
Here's the auction description and a link to the online catalog.

[attachment=0]kingston mss lot 866.jpg[/attachment]
http://www.livebidonline.com/catalogues/a328/index.php
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#11 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:32 pm

A couple more

HAMILTON 7·2·59

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RIVER DON 17/3/60
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#12 Post by RogerKinns » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:22 am

BRIDGEWATER
I bought the illustrated item on Ebay from a US supplier.
Bridgewater
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The 4d Chalon appears to have a part manuscript cancellation of BRIDGEWATER. The date is incomplete, but it is likely to be in 1858. Remarkably, it appears to be in the same hand as the BURGESS cancellation shown opposite Page 108 of the Green Book, Part 1. Did they share a postmaster, either in parallel or sequentially?

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#13 Post by Revenuer » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:05 pm

Another Torquay 10-3-57
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#14 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:46 pm

HAMILTON · 29.12.59
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#15 Post by John Campton » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:44 pm

While BN 47 for Oatlands in the First Allocation period is not rare this is an interesting item due to the preprinting paper fold and inverted watermark.
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#16 Post by Jerry Weirich » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:06 pm

The following item is currently being offered on ebay as a postal manuscript of Runnymede. However, it is a postal manuscript of River Don, circa 1860. This is at least the second time the item has been offered as Runnymede. I notified the same vendor both times, but they chose not to amend the description. Just want to let everyone know the true situation. River Don is still a good manuscript, but don't get fooled to think it is Runnymede. UPDATE 7 OCT 2022: The vendor updated the ebay post to reflect the manuscript as River Don.
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#17 Post by jockelino » Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:46 pm

Hello,

I found this 1d chalon head wmk double lined 1 with a manuscript writing. Can anyone tell me if it might be a postal manuacript cancellation or if it us just a fiscal usage? Can anyone decipher the wording? Any help would be great!
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Greetings

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#18 Post by John Hardinge » Wed Nov 02, 2022 2:03 pm

Have had a good look at this and I am 99.5% sure it's simply a name, probably off a receipt. IT could be the name of a postmaster, making it postal. Almost 100% sure it's not a P.O name.

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#19 Post by jockelino » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:38 pm

Hello,

thank you very much for your help! I`ll put it aside as not identificable!

Greetings

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#20 Post by Jerry Weirich » Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:10 am

Can anyone tell me what the text is on this manuscript? I purchased this based on a low-resolution scan on eBay thinking it was dated 1860 and hoping it was postally used but it now appears to be 1864.
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#21 Post by John Hardinge » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:26 pm

Jerry, bit of a mystery. I'm a bit stumped with that one.

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#22 Post by John Campton » Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:27 pm

Here is a question to those more knowledgeable than myself on MSS cancellations prior to the issue of 2nd Allocation BNs.

Does the "River Don" mss also just have a "Don" mss, or does the "Don" image shown below represent a partial mss?
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I have shown two full "River Don" mss for reference.
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#23 Post by John Campton » Fri Jan 12, 2024 10:12 am

Thanks to Malcolm G and the images he has provided I can now state that the "Don" mss comes both as "River Don" and "Don".

The later mss is shown in the following images.
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