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Forgeries and Facsimiles seen on Online Auction Sites, etc

#1 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:20 pm

PLEASE POST ANY SUITABLE ITEMS TO THIS TOPIC

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This item was offered on eBay during June 2009. It is most likely to have been produced
as a facsimile rather than a forgery as the size of the margins aren't going to fool anybody.
Can anyone suggest a name as a possible producer of this stamp and postmark?

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#2 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:35 pm

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This poor forgery of a 4d Courier was offered on eBay in early 2009. Despite several appeals
to the vendor to stop proclaiming it as a top example of a genuine stamp and "come clean",
the item remained as originally described until sold (for about US$90 or so if I remember correctly)
Although the image (from the eBay listing) is poor, can anyone suggest a name for the forger?

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#3 Post by Revenuer » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:35 pm

Spot the Forgery!
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On eBay September 2009

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#4 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:32 pm

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here's another tough one to spot !! ;)

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#5 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:07 pm

These Couriers were offered as forgeries by Status International in their January 28th 2010 Public Auction (Sale #263 - Lot 1371)

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Catalog Description: 1853 QV Courier 1d blue & 4d orange, both being early forgeries with engraved designs. SG ex1/12 would cat £1400 as genuine.
Quite scarce & interesting reference items. (2) ESTIMATE: A$200
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#6 Post by Ross Ewington » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:59 pm

This forgery of a 4d Courier was offered for sale as genuine
on eBay during March 2010
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#7 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:14 pm

Noting that a Sperati reproduction of the £1 QV Key Type is being offered at auction by Prestige Philately
on April 10th and having a copy of the very scarce "Sperati" books published by the BPA in 1955 to hand,
I thought it would be a good time to post an image of the stamp on offer and the relevant text and plate from the book.

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The auction listing can be viewed at : http://www.prestigephilately.com/cats.p ... ionnum=155
See Lot 223.
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#8 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:54 pm

A forgery this bad shouldn't fool anyone but a hopeful eBay vendor had still
used it to "up" the total catalog value of an otherwise lacklustre lot.

The forged obliterator postmark is a useful reference.


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#9 Post by Ross Ewington » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:27 pm

this 3d St George & Dragon was offered on eBay during November 2010 - item 300488485910

it has a poorly cleaned fiscal cancel (that anyone interested should have seen as the vendor
provided an excellent large image for inspection) and what I believe to be a forged 'TASMANIA' barred
obliterator ...am I right here (i.e. that it's a forged cancellation)??

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#10 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:24 pm

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Offered on eBay as a SUPERB forgery during April 2011
...at least the vendor got the 'forgery' bit right in the description!

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#11 Post by Revenuer » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:53 pm

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#12 Post by Ross Ewington » Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:59 pm

just seen on eBay (November 4th 2011) ...
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I can't recall having seen this particular forgery before - does anyone know who produced it?

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#13 Post by David McNamee » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:20 pm

Mavis Pope illustrates this 2d. Says engraved and heavily inked. Created by unknown forger. I have seen fake Courier 4d also with that cancel type.

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#14 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:12 pm

Listed on eBay as item 110775726882 - described correctly by the vendor.
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#15 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:09 am

Seen offered on eBay (Item 300636474049 - December 2011)
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#16 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:55 pm

Seen offered on eBay as a postally used postal fiscal, early January 2012 - item 260925723421

the stamp is genuine but .....


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....nuff sed!
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#17 Post by Ross Ewington » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:33 pm

Yet to be seen on an Online Auction site but they will be later in the year. ;)

Forgeries attributed to Jeffryes of the 1d and 4d Couriers....

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#18 Post by eelyfree » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:42 pm

hi
Here is a lithographed forgery of the 1/- chalon. Its not actually been seen on an auction site although I am selling some australian states in on-line auctions. It is easily spotted the earrings are very poorly depicted. I have only ever seen this one copy although I have seen several forgeries of the Courrier issues. I did wonder if it could be a postal forgery as its not a hughely valuble stamp and not good enough to fool collectors. does any one know more about this forgery ?
Thanks for looking
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#19 Post by Ross Ewington » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:36 pm

I think this falls into the 'facsimile' (poor) category and as you mention, not good enough to fool collectors.

An interesting feature is the postmark which is very similar to the one applied to the forgery/facsimile of the 2d Chalon listed above...

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http://tps.org.au/bb/posting.php?mode=r ... =12#pr3138

Thanks for your first post 'eelyfree' - I hope that you find the TPS BB a useful and friendly place for seeking and sharing information about Tasmanian stamps and postal history.
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#20 Post by Ross Ewington » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:22 pm

Just seen on eBay - another example of the forged 2d QV Chalon with 'evil eye'!
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#21 Post by Hobbit123 » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:14 am

And now for something completely different. Seen several times on EBay, a replica set of the Tablet issue to £1. Sold as a replica, and stated to have REPLICA on the back of each stamp.
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Makes a change from all those Chalons and Couriers.

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#22 Post by Ross Ewington » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Seen on eBay - March 10th 2013

Fortunately, the vendor has described the item correctly as being a forgery.
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Interesting to note that the forger must have produced a die with at least two units (see frame
line of an adjoining 'stamp' on top margin).

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#23 Post by Ross Ewington » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:25 am

just noted this item being offered on eBay, a very poor forgery of a 2d Chalon
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vendor obviously a professional as he states (after the catalog number and assigned
c.v.), "This stamp could be a forgery". :roll:

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#24 Post by Hobbit123 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:50 am

Here is a trio of forgeries that I bought from a dealer (as forgeries).
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The 4d is fair, but obvious, the other two are clearly forged. I note the forged postmark (South Doo??). Has anyone else sen this cancelling a forgery?

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#25 Post by Ross Ewington » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:44 pm

seen offered on eBay - September 2013
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